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OSHA attorney at Ogletree | helping employers with OSHA inspections, citations, and trials nationwide | follow me for updates and OSHA defense strategies

You might be doing EVERYTHING right from a safety perspective. Then, how come we start asking questions you've never been asked before when we get retained to assist you with an OSHA Citation?! It's simple - because litigating an OSHA Citation can involve all of the following concepts - none of which are studied when studying for a CSP (I know, I studied!): 1. whether an employee is a supervisor or not, pursuant to certain factors set forth in case law 2. the number of times you have disciplined your employees 3. what work was performed more than six months prior to the date of the Citation 4. whether a supervisor observed any hazard or (alleged) violative condition 5. when the supervisor was last on site before the alleged violation was observed by the OSHA inspector 6. whether the conduct of your employee was prohibited by an existing company work rule 7. whether, in theory, doing it the "right" way (that is, the OSHA way) is, arguably, more dangerous than some other way 8. whether, and to what extent, you (1) vetted your subcontractor and (2) determined if your subcontractor enforced a progressive disciplinary program (for this one, read the OSHA multi-employer citation policy, in the section regarding "controlling employers" and you will see reference to this; this borders on being obscure but it is actually VERY important!) 9. whether non-compliant equipment was actually used (OSHA story: we had an OSHA case years ago in which a machine had not been used for 2 years, but the company was cited because there was no machine guard on it - predictably, we argued there is no employee exposure and, quickly, OSHA withdrew the violation) 10. Who was doing what, who knew what, how long it had been going on, why it was going on, and who was responsible for what was going on! Bonus: 11. Do you know what a competent person is, and did you have one? In response, we prefer not to hear, competent what? #OSHA #safety

Craig Railey

Director of Risk Management at Branded Group

9mo

Well said Michael. As always.

Christopher Oehl

Operations Manager/ CEO at ORBIT industrial service & maintenance

9mo

Keep doing what you’re doing my friend! Never a bad read coming from you Mike!!!

Debra D.

Breakthrough Defense Strategies to Reclaim Control in Workers’ Compensation | CEO & Managing Partner | Wenderoff Law

9mo

Thanks Mike! Your advice and input is always invaluable.

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Nate Hertzog, ASP, CSMC

Safety Management, Training, Communication, Leadership

9mo

All are so very important! Knowing the answers to those things has saved us from citations! If you don’t know what Michael is talking about do research and find out! Definitions, case law, and actual standards are so very important! My law enforcement background has helped me tremendously and that regard!

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Ken Kyle, CSP, CIHM, CECM, CIAQM, CRAME, CSRP, MAS

Area Director New York and New England at Signature Safety

9mo

Michael Rubin , CSP. Has a nice ring to it.

Larry Folkner, GSP, SMP, CHST

Safety & Health Manager-Conti Federal Services

9mo

I have had these type of discussion with OSHA in the past. Spot on.

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Steven Johnson, OHST, SMP

Construction Safety Advocate

9mo

All great points!

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